Gun Safety Video.....Scary

[ilovesprig]

This an reenactment, but it shows how quickly your life and someone else's can change.....

Having the safety on would've helped (DUH!) And in my book, the guy behind probably shouldn't have had a shell in the chamber. Although, this is a very common scenario especially when sneaking or jump shooting ducks......2 cents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83alh8UvAVg

 

[Gspman]

Good posting

Ummmmm..... Where to start. I'd rather fall on my face and break my nose or a rib then "catch" myself and shoot some one. Always check your safety multiple times always mind your finger untill you are on target keep a round out untill the last possible second(but lets assume this was a stalk). This is no accident like dropping a gun and having it go off when the safety is on. Still a Really bad avoidable thing

Next they did not do any first aid that I saw. I always carry celox it's light takes little space and can safe someones life. Even if some one outside the group had shot this man every one should know and use real first aid. We use guns guys... Let's learn to field treat trauma

 

[NBK]

The video is scary for sure but obviously completely avoidable.

It is a great reminder but it has been proven (drivers ed. - some of the older folks on this forum may remember "Red Asphalt") that this type of tactic when teaching specific skills sets only have a shallow effect on students.

The way these guys were holding their rifles in the given situation was ridiculous and irresponsible.

I am with Drew...and it doesn't matter whether you shoot a bow or a gun, knowledge of how to administer a basic level of first aid in the field is important and your responsibility if hunting with others.

I carry a full first aid kit on my quad and also carry a product called "Quick Clot" in my pack. "Quick Clot" is a product that can be a life-saver when bleeding needs to be stopped (it is the same stuff the U.S. military uses). And just a heads up, Fine Firearms has it on the shelf at a very good price. Otherwise it is available all over the Internet.

Steve, as usual you have posted another very relevant topic. We appreciate what you do on this forum. Folks should read this and watch the video as a reminder. And keep in mind, trauma out in the field can come in many ways beyond wounds from a given weapon.

 

[ilovesprig]

Thanks John......One other note, I know there's a lot of new hunters on here, but just because you may be an older hunter doesn't mean your safer.....Just a couple years back, I hunted with someone (OLDER) that didn't hunt with his safety on in the blind......I told him to put it on. His response was....."But this is the way I've always hunted and makes me slower (to have the safety on) when birds come in"......I have to admit I got a little harsh......I don't give a "rats behind" how you used to do it......This is totally stupid and unsafe.....It's one thing to kill yourself, but having a person just feet away is grossly irresponsible.

And while we're on the subject.......THIS IS THE PROPER TECHNIQUE TO TAKE YOUR SAFETY OFF WHEN HUNTING WITH A SHOTGUN.....AS THE GUN COMES UP TO YOUR SHOULDER, THE SAFETY IS TAKEN OFF AT THE SAME TIME, ALL ONE MOTION.....NOT WHEN THE BIRD IS A 100 YARDS OUT OR BEFORE THE FLUSH......PERIOD!


ps......Heard later that the same person's gun went off in his layout blind.....Scary!

 

[Bonejour]

Thanks Steve. Good post for reviewing basic firearm safety. Exercise muzzle control at all times. Follower should not be carrying in ready position, and I would argue he should not have a round chambered because he's not ready to fire. I'm attaching a pic that's right out of CA hunter safety training. Btw f they were jumping ducks they wouldn't be in line, but abreast; and if they were stalking, there wouldn't be four making all that noise. They did examine entry and exit wounds, and applied pressure (till they stood him up and walked him to the truck lol).

 

[Aeon]

a tale about someone i know......

most tragedies have multiple failure points. What i mean by this is that in general when you have a accident you can almost always point to 3 or more things that lead up to the failure. Breaking that chain is the goal of good gun practices. Example of that would be in the video not having a round chambered, not having the safety off, not having the finger on the trigger. Take any one of the three out and nothing happens here but a busted hand or face. That is the goal of gun safety. We are human and we are prone to mistakes but practicing good basic gun handling skills prevents almost all accidents even when one or two steps in the process fail.

Case in point, a friend i know well had this happen
while shooting ducks in a layout boat set side by side 5 yards apart in med cover. after shooting a few ducks out of a group that came in the dog was out getting the birds. A shot gun was laid down across the boat that the dog was bringing birds back to. The hunters were bs'ing with each other as the dog returned with the first bird. On returning the with first bird the hunter took the bird and stood back up expecting his dog to go back and get the other two. the dog decided to jump in the boat. As the dog jumped in its paw depressed the safety on the front of the trigger guard and simultaneously mashed the trigger back discharging the weapon.

so what went wrong? first mistake was to lay the gun down with a round chambered. how many of us have done that? safe to say most. next mistake was to lay the gun in the area where the dog could potentially interact with it. the next mistake and this one is one none of you would ever think of is to lay the gun with the safety pointed down in the safe position. if the gun had been laying on its other side nothing happens. So 3 consecutive failures and a uncontrolled discharge. This story has a happen ending because one thing was done correctly. The barrel was pointed 180 deg away from the other person. So as scary as it is 3 failures in a row thank god the last one was done right. had the barrel been pointed the other way a 3" mag would have ripped the other hunted to shreds. Hours from help and far from home.

SO what do you take from this? Safety is a process that when practiced can prevent horrible things even when one, two, or three things fail. It starts when you teach kids, my dad used to ask me every 5 min is my gun on safe. In truth though, its the seasoned hunter that is the most dangerous. We all tend to think that the rules are for the new guys and "I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING" So check your ego and get back to basics even if you have 30 years under your belt.


PS this was not me and i do not know what you are talking about

 

[stikbrandon]

Excellent thread!

 

[Sdbirds]

That's a scary lil movie. Saftey first kids